Comments on: Norway’s Separation of Church and State Explained /secular-humanist/ All Things Norway, In English Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:53:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: Glenn Martin /secular-humanist/#comment-508421 Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:39:03 +0000 /?p=8872#comment-508421 In reply to David.

With regard to humanist confirmation, you ask “What exactly is being achieved?” The answer is simple. It’s that non-believers are given and are accepting an alternative to a religious celebration of coming of age. There is nothing at all “odd” about atheists and/or humanists offering, seeking and enjoying “alternative” confirmations, weddings, and funerals. What makes you think that believers should be the only people who desire ceremonies to honour the milestones of our lives?

As for “kids who are being turned away from any potential belief in God.” Isn’t confimation supposed to be about people who are on the verge of adulthood making up their own minds? There are still far more teens forced into church confimation by their parents, in the name of tradition.

Your charge that Dawkins and other atheists see life “as purposeless and meaningless existence” is false and ignorant. On the contrary, atheists revel in and cherish this life more than believers do, because we believe it is the only one we get.

Academia is not suppressing Christianity in the study of history and literature. What is and must be challenged are the areas where science clearly trumps religion. And there are many of those.

You claim that “the world was a much better place” before humanism, as if there is a causal relation. Please explain more specifically, if you can.

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By: David /secular-humanist/#comment-508369 Tue, 12 Apr 2016 11:44:12 +0000 /?p=8872#comment-508369 In reply to David.

As a correction to my post above I meant to say “Teenage confirmations”, not Baptisms.

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By: David /secular-humanist/#comment-508368 Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:58:31 +0000 /?p=8872#comment-508368 Humanism = organized atheism.

There is a lot more to this than is seen on the surface. Take for instance the statement regarding teenage Baptisms, he said “This is our largest yearly achievement”. What exactly is being “achieved”? and why call it an “achievement” instead of a service.

Perhaps the satisfaction which comes from feeling that there are 10,000 kids who are being turned away from any potential belief in God, whom the HEF and others of their ilk, abhor with a vengeance.

Does it not strike anyone as being a little odd that atheists, who profess not to believe in God spend all the time and effort (which they do) in opposing Biblical Christianity, even to the lengths of offering “alternatives” for weddings and funerals etc.

We have people like Richard Dawkins who puts enormous effort into his opposition of Biblical Christianity amid what he and those like him see as a purposeless and meaningless existence.

With a little honest research one could be excused for thinking that these people are not fighting FOR truth, but rather doing all they can to suppress it; in order to try and justify their own rebellion, as it is always easier to justify rebellion when you can convince others to join you in the midst of it.

A fleeting glance over Christian content on the internet will always reveal scores of comments from those who hate even the idea of God and the moral accountability which accompanies said belief.

Humanistic pride wants to write it’s own rules, to try and silence the conscience (which science cannot explain) when the alternative would be to admit they are sinners in need of salvation.

I watched an interesting documentary, available in full on youtube called “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”. Ben Stein decided to investigate claims that academia was also doing it’s part to suppress anything to do with Biblical Christianity, even to the point of dismissing college professors for even entertaining the idea of intelligent design. The results he uncovered were indeed eye-opening and reaffirms what I said earlier about the suppression of truth.

Before God was thrown out of Schools, colleges and the workplace by “Humanists” kicking up a fuss, the world was a much better place, but when you tell people either directly or indirectly that their existence is merely an accident without purpose the results are in the news every single day.

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By: SM /secular-humanist/#comment-508360 Tue, 12 Apr 2016 06:47:42 +0000 /?p=8872#comment-508360 Hi, In you article you refer to Norway becoming an atheist society. I understand that many more people do not believe in God but I would disagree with your comment that Norway is becoming an atheist society. In my graduate research at the university in Oslo I focused on this. Many also had this same thought but research has proven that Norway and or Scandinavia is not becoming more atheist as you call it but more secular and pluralist. As was briefly mentioned in your article immigration plays a role in this. Imigration has grown more in recent years in Norway and crisis around the world has brought many refugees to Norway. Some things abouts Islam were mentioned in your article but surprisingly most of the immigrants coming to Europe have a Christian background. For example Polish people are mostly Catholic and they are one of the biggest immigrant groups in Norway. Numbers show that the Catholic church in Norway has grown tremendously in the last few years. Most immigrants hold on to their beliefs even though they come to live in Norway. And if you are talking about Norwegian society then you should include immigrants because they are an obvious part of society. So to say that Norway is becoming an atheist society I think is an understatement. Norway is becoming more multicultural and more pluralist.

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